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Skink
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Kosovo
Posted: 18 Feb 08 10:31 AM Modified By Skink  on 2/18/2008 10:31:44 AM)
What do you all think about Kosovo? I think unless they can defeat one army from Serbia than we should not get involved. That is my opinion.
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Re: Kosovo
Posted: 18 Feb 08 8:26 PM Modified By Alisium  on 2/18/2008 11:11:22 PM)
Well since the world is tired of us invading countries for oil money left and right we should oblige them and stay out of this one when it becomes a mess. EDIT: Since we were so quick to recognize Kosovo I wonder what message that sends to places like Kurdistan.
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Re: Kosovo
Posted: 19 Feb 08 2:46 AM

Don't forget, in the Starfist Universe the Marines are always going places to restore order or to protect the Confederation's interests.  Sometimes that's necessary, even in real life, but sometimes it leads to disaster and sometimes when on the surface invasions appear justified, once you look below that you find they weren't.  Those of you familiar with the series will know just which books I'm referring to.  We base these books on the fact that nothing changes in the world except technology. 

Now back to the 21st century, if we went places for oil or other resources we need that would make sense although it makes more sense to cut deals with bad people who have stuff we need.  But we went into the Balkans because we are the "good" guys, to bring "democracy" and "stop the genocide."  That was Bill Clinton's justification.  Anyone noticed that we're still there, even though they have nothing there that we need?  And if we went into Iraq for their oil, that failed because they haven't supplied a significant quantity of the stuff since we invaded.  Well, the justification there was, again, to bring "democracy" to the country.  Shit, Iraq's governed by tribal law, has been for centuries, and "democracy" there, or anywhere in the Arab world, is a fancy Greek word.  I thought at first, and so did Bill Clinton -- don't you Democrats take on airs -- that Saddam just had to go, but these days I'm convinced it'd have been far better if we'd just left him in power, seeing how things have turned out since we deposed him.  If we really want to conquer a foreign country we can do that with Coke, Hollywood's movies, McDonald's, and pop music -- America's youth culture trumps ideology every time.

My foreign policy is, deal with everyone but if anyone screws with you, kill 'em.

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Re: Kosovo
Posted: 19 Feb 08 3:01 AM
Politics has never been my strong point. I went where I was told and shot where I was told to aim. I haven't until recently really cared what shit they government got us into because the hard harsh reality is, it just didn't concern me, it didn't prevent me from living my life like I always have. And even harsher is the fact that is how most people will view it.

Now, bring those issues to my door step and you will hatin' life like you ain't never hated anything before. So I am agreeing with Danners on this one.
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Re: Kosovo
Posted: 19 Feb 08 9:41 PM
Aside from the truth that Dan said about democracy being a fancy Greek word to the Arabs, there's a major difference between how we went into the Muslim Balkans and how we went into Iraq. In the Balkans, we and our NATO allies let everybody know up front that we weren't going to allow violence, and had enough force on hand to enforce it. In Iraq, we went in with far too few troops, and then stood back and did nothing while everybody went wild.
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