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barcelonablom
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Generation Kill
Posted: 15 Jul 08 9:53 PM Modified By barcelonablom on 7/15/2008 9:57:39 PM)
Can't believe I skipped over the book. I thought it was something making fun of the military. First time I never looked at the back cover of a book too... Anyways a reporter with Rolling Stone was embedded with Marines from the 1st Marine Recon Battalion who were the tip of the spear at the opening of the Iraq war. He recorded everything unadulterated and he and some of those Marines were there for guidance on this Miniseries. I think its well done and the characters are mostly certainly real feeling (even if they weren't based on real people, or a represenation of a person).

Six episodes to go. I'm stoked and having hopes this stays good:

Some trailers:

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Previews focusing on the characters:

Sgt. Brad "Iceman" Colbert
Cpl. Ray Person
LCpl James Trombley
LtCol Stephen "Godfather" Ferrando
Sgt Antonio "Poke" Espera
Lt Nate Fick



I swear I A. Know Marines like these guys or B. Can imagine Marines especially grunts and ESPECIALLY Recon... acting like these guys.
Skink
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Re: Generation Kill
Posted: 15 Jul 08 11:48 PM
Cant see it because it's on HBO and well I don't get HBO. But I know where I can see ut. On the HBO website!
Alisium
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Re: Generation Kill
Posted: 21 Jul 08 10:38 PM
I own a copy and love it! There is a book that could be considered a companion by Nathanial Fink, the platoon comander that he was attatched to. One Bullet Away: The Making of A Marine Corps Officer. +
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Trang
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Re: Generation Kill
Posted: 04 Sep 08 2:57 PM

I just downloaded and watched the 7 episodes yesterday, I thought it was very interesting and well done.
A few points I thought were little overdone(which is to be expected from hollywood):

1. The incompetance portion of the story(officers, reservists,equipment)
2. The questioning of orders

I believe the original post stated the characters weren't real Marines, a couple different sources stated that the they are. I dont have the books yet but am going to order them (wrights and the that LT's).

Overall great series, Highly reccomend it, cant wait to get the books.

Trang

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barcelonablom
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Re: Generation Kill
Posted: 04 Sep 08 3:22 PM
 Trang wrote

I just downloaded and watched the 7 episodes yesterday, I thought it was very interesting and well done.
A few points I thought were little overdone(which is to be expected from hollywood):

1. The incompetance portion of the story(officers, reservists,equipment)
2. The questioning of orders

I believe the original post stated the characters weren't real Marines, a couple different sources stated that the they are. I dont have the books yet but am going to order them (wrights and the that LT's).

Overall great series, Highly reccomend it, cant wait to get the books.

Trang



I don't think #1 is "Hollywood" at all. Its more of a one-sided story. I'm sure they were incompetent to extents (leading to #2 in Fick's case) but you have to think Wright wrote 90% of the book from the POV of enlisted men. Of course anything in the case of SNCOs and Officers will be overdone, good or bad. Just like the girlfriend photo, rumors tend to become elusive in the military.

#2 In Fick's case I think is true. He became a Captain but left the Marines because of the efforts of good officers being oversughted by the actions of some not-so-good, Im going to read his book and see if he mentions it. As for the men wondering what they were doing, they really didn't. Recon (these guys are not Force Recon) go into the Area of Operations in teams, like they did in Afghanistan, doing their semi-clandestine/overt operations to gain intelligence useful to the commander for the AO (while Force Recon usually goes deep or waay outside of the AO to gain intelligence). Gen. Matthis decided to have them roll in Humvees as a convoy to screen out ambushes from surrounding enemy forces from the main axis of advance. In short he most certainly earned his callsign "Chaos" as 1st Recon did exactly that, tying up Fedayeen and Conventional Iraqi military as they made their "charge" across the Iraqi countryside. The only thing is, they never told the meen of 1st Recon that they were doing just that. In the new Generation Kill book, Wright has a new afterword and SSgt Kocher went back again in time for Fallujah. They were stuck rolling in the same manner and they payed for it. The new foreign jihadists over there were a "new generation" as Kocher put it and the Recon Marines suffered when RPGs were actually striking vehicles and man Marines were wounded. From what I can see, I think they gave up the Chaos Humvee ideas.
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