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 Re: what about those other proud units?
 
Skink
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Re: what about those other proud units?
Posted: 26 Dec 09 5:58 PM
 DavidS wrote
Here's something you don't know. Nobody does, actually. When Dan and I started this project, way back in 1995, I wrote a bible for the series. The fifth paragraph reads:

"Earth's government is the World League. In the late 21st century, the US, China, Switzerland, Brazil, and the Union of South Africa formed an uneasy alliance to run the world. Most other nation-states are semi-autonomous, but dependent on one or another of the six main countries. A few maintain a fierce independence, but generally find it in their best interests to cooperate with the WL."

The "World League" never had a role in any of the books; it was superceded by a unified world government, with its capital in Fargo. Anyway, the Confederation of Human Worlds was formed by Earth's government. You will notice in that quote from the bible that neither France nor Holland was one of the originating nation-states.

The US Marines claim spiritual descent from the Royal Marines who, I believe, were the first modern Marine Corps. Most other Marine Corps in the world today are modeled after either the US or the Royal Marines.

I knew one Dutch Marine. Ex-Dutch Marine, actually. He came to the US when his enlistment was up and enlisted in the USMC. We were in Boot Camp together. He was rather shocked by the experience, and told me that US Marine training was much tougher than its Dutch counterpart. Before anybody gets upset, that was then. How things were then doesn't mean that's how they are now. For all I know, today's Dutch Marine training is tougher than the US Marines' Boot Camp.



Can we get a StarFist bible?

The Prime Master read the message again. This time, by the time he finished reading, he smiled beatifically. The message included a great deal of information about the Earthman Army and airpower and their tactics. This was inteligence that would serve the Emperor's army well when it next encountered the Earthman Army. As it most assuredly would.......
mclark
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Re: what about those other proud units?
Posted: 26 Dec 09 8:04 PM
 Skink wrote

Can we get a StarFist bible?

That would probably be highly unlikely...

Skink, an author's bible is something created by authors, particularly those of series and collaborative works, in order to try to keep some kind of continuity between books, and especially between authors. They are generally kept out of the public eye, for various reasons, but especially because they may contain information about the proposed future of plot lines, characters, and places that the author(s) do not wish to make public -- they contain spoilers! -- and sometimes the book(s) do not remain true to the bible. They can also be anything from random notes in a shoebox to highly detailed databases on a computer

I happen to have an author's bible in my possession, not for Starfist, but for War World.

I don't imagine that anyone here remembers a book series, a "shared universe", that was originated by Jerry Pournelle as a part of his overall CoDominium/Empire of Man future history. This was a series called War World. I happen to have a copy of the series bible; I earned one because I contribued to it. Because of my interest in Pournelle's work, I had put together a CoDo/EoM chronology that was far more detailed than even Pournelle had ever done, to that point (his books in that series generally had a minimal chronology appearing in the preface). I submitted my chronology to John Carr, who was the series editor at the time, and it was incorporated into the bible. Carr later sent me a copy of the bible with my chronology included. That was something like fifteen years or so ago.

I really liked that series, and considered trying to write an installment (like a short story), but never got around to it. The series ran out of legs some time back, unfortunately. I did write Pournelle a couple of years ago suggesting he dust the series off one more time, and even gave him an idea of how possibly to do so -- a plot idea. He said he liked my idea, but had a lot of doubt whether he could get his publisher interested. I guess it's the same kind of problem that David and Dan have had with SF Force Recon and DemonTech.

I think it is a good ambition to want to have an author's bible for a series one is interested in -- and I would jump at it myself -- but the chances of David or Dan even remotely considering passing it out to common folks like us, Skink, is as close to nonexistent as it is possible to get without it becoming zero. Now I will grant you that it's possible that Eric might have been given the privilege of seeing the authors bible in order to make his screenplay as accurate as possible. But maybe even he did not get to see it.

eric_bean34
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Re: what about those other proud units?
Posted: 27 Dec 09 11:49 AM
 mclark wrote
 Now I will grant you that it's possible that Eric might have been given the privilege of seeing the authors bible in order to make his screenplay as accurate as possible. But maybe even he did not get to see it.


Hell i never knew such things existed! But had I known, out of respect for the authors and their privacy on the series, I still would not have asked.
DavidS
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Re: what about those other proud units?
Posted: 28 Dec 09 11:27 AM
Mike is right about a series going astray from a bible. For the most part, Dan and I haven't referred to the bible since we started the actual writing. It was a tool to help our focus when we began. There was another document we wrote in the beginning to get the first contract; a brief outline of the first six books. Actually, I'm not sure we ever wrote any of the proposed novels in that outline. (I just looked, it appears that I no longer have a copy of the outline.) Something we've referred to more often is the FIST table of organization. You don't need to ask for that, it's on my website.
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Re: what about those other proud units?
Posted: 28 Dec 09 5:18 PM
No need to ask. I already have it in my documents.
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