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armyblank
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Re: chameleons?
Posted: 17 Dec 06 7:30 PM

 Finucane wrote
AB, fill us in on the Class "A" uniform.  I see everyone around here, even at the Pentagon, wearing BDUs of one kind or another.  Used to be you NEVER wore field uniform in a staff position unless you were participating in an exercise and you could get a delinquency report from the MPs if you were caught wandering around in them down on civvie street unless you were married and just stopping in somewhere for groceries on your way home from work

The only thing I have as an answer is the army is getting plane lazy.  Use to be that if you where in garrison you dressed in office attire(class A or class B)  now they just wear the field uniforms for everything, it is more practical they say.  As a mechanic in the motor pool yes, but why can't the company clerk come in in dress uniform?  Might spill white out on it.  Just another chink in the Army's slowly desolving traditions.

The Army has even become lacks in the no uniform off duty rule.  Now on base you see soldiers going every where in uniform after work.  Not just after ethier I mean 8 o'clock at the movies after.  The CSM's really give troops hell when they see them, but it doesn't stop them.

  The Reserves won't even let you go check up on a deployed soldiers family in uniform.  A lot of families don't know that death notification has to be done in Class A.  They had people stopping by in ACU's and scaring the people that they wanted to help. 

 Did you know that they are going to do away with the Dress greens and go to the dress blues as the formal uniform.  Had one guy complaining about that and I asked him who where the red coats fighting during the 1700's.

armyblank
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Re: chameleons?
Posted: 17 Dec 06 7:51 PM
 Teufel Panzer MK4 wrote

I'm still a little hazy on that issue myself. I'd think that an Assault rifle would be just any other automatic rifle, as you say Mr. Sherman, the B.A.R. Furthermore, I would say that a S.A.W. would be something you'd want to mount on a vehicle, like an M60 or the Belgian M72 I think it was.

The SAW has to different configureations, nothing on the wepon changes at all but the way you employ it does.  The first is the Light Machine Gun, As a LGM you get both gunner and assistant gunner, a star light scope, the tripod and more ammo.  The LMG is used like the Medium and Heavy machine guns M60, M240, M2, or the MK19.  Then you have individuals that carry the M249 as their personal weapon.  We are called Automatic Rifleman.  We don't get a tripod and less ammo than a LMG configuration.  Still same weapon just one person.  Now as an AR you can assualt an objective with a M249.  My job is ussually overwatch though as my squad moves.  Yes I still have to advance with them, but I try to stay in a position where I can give everyone cover fire if they need it.  the Saw comes in real handy because it is great in urban terrain.  Light enough so one man can carry it, But has a fire rate of a machine gun.  It will never replace any of the bigger machine guns  but it complaments them nicely.  Take a company that has all M16 as their personnel weapons and switch 15% of their individual weapons from a M16 to a M249.  Same number of weapons, but a lot more fire power.

Finucane
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Re: chameleons?
Posted: 17 Dec 06 7:53 PM
AB:  Very interesting and quite informative.  It's been over 26 years since I wore the uniform and I guess the world has moved on.  In my day we were required to keep our "A" and "B" uniforms in parade-ground shape, shoes, brass shined, everything dress right dress.  It was a bitch, especially shining brass on a Monday morning before formation after a heavy weekend, but we did it and were proud of the way we looked when we put the rags on.  I could never abide a sloppy soldier in garrison.   But looking back now, I could never go through that routine again.  Fascinating the army intends to replace the Greens with the Dress Blues. I never owned a set of those.  I remember the ODs, the famous Ike Jacket and that was a superior uniform, it never took a wrinkle, always looked military.  Never did like the Greens, too much like a bus driver's outfit, until you got some hashmarks and chevrons.  I guess the Khakis have long since faded out of the clothing bag.

Thanks for this update.
hellawulf
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Re: chameleons?
Posted: 02 Jul 08 4:05 AM
Why did the army drop the blue uniform except as parade dress?
And when is it expected to be back as the service dress again?

Oh and the marine Blues, are they actually dark/navy blue or are they black (like Navy their Black coats). Or just the lighting on most photos makes them look ‘Black’?
DavidS
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Re: chameleons?
Posted: 22 Jul 08 3:57 PM
Don't know about the army uniforms, but the jacket on the dress blues is navy blue. Navy blue is almost black
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