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Soldris
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Re: Deaths so far.
Posted: 29 Apr 07 6:18 PM
Actually yes. Now that you mention it. I was really starting to respect vanden Hoyt. He cared for his men, and was a good leader. He didn't deserve what he got. St.Cyr deffinetly deserved his agonizing death though.
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Re: Deaths so far.
Posted: 29 Apr 07 6:29 PM Modified By DavidS  on 4/29/2007 6:31:46 PM)
Dan overstated the case when he said I go into PTSD when one of the Marines of 34th FIST gets killed off, but it does sometimes really hurt. Unlike some authors, we don't have everything spelled out in advance, and the characters take on lives of their own and do things we don't expect, or even desire. I hated to lose Saleski and the others in that fight on Diamunde, but when he acted on his own the way he did, the rest had to happen the way it did and there wasn't anything I could do about it.

I'm sure you've noticed that whenever someone in third platoon gets hit, he's named. Even a lot of the Marines in other platoons or companies get named when they become casualties, even if the occasion of their getting killed or wounded is their only mention in the books. There was a novel I read a few years ago, bodies getting blown up all over the place, men getting shot right and left. Damn, by the end of the fire fight that platoon must have suffered something like 300% KIAs. In the aftermath, the author said something on the order of three dead, six wounded. I went back and counted up all the killing shots and bodies being blown to bits. I don't remember the exact count, but it was more than 100% of the strength of a platoon. You won't find that kind of pseudo-carnage in Starfist. Here, if a Marine gets wounded or killed, he deserves to be named.

Speaking of a list of casualties, I need one for Firestorm. My hard drive died shortly after we finished that book, and I seem to have lost the platoon roster for it, so I don't know who the casualties were. Dammit. And I don't even have an electronic copy anymore.
Soldris
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Re: Deaths so far.
Posted: 29 Apr 07 6:38 PM
You're completely right about the characters taking on lives of their own. Hell, I could see myself as buddies with some of them. About those 300% casualties books, I'm not really into those as much. They're to overdramatic sometimes. Starfist is perfect for me, because every single man in that platoon is named, and at least a little bit known about them. They're not just names in a book. To me, they could all be real people!
Finucane
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Re: Deaths so far.
Posted: 30 Apr 07 3:55 AM

When you write a character, and we've been doing this for over two decades now, hundreds of them, you put some of yourself into that fictional person. As David mentioned, even the ones who have only "walk-on" roles have names, that makes them real to us.  When you open the papers these days and see the photos of the Iraq casualties, those are real people, cut down in the prime of life.  Well, to us so are the ones we cut down in these novels.  You can't write about war without spilling someone's blood but you don't have to enjoy doing it.

Now for the bad guys, that's different.

AffectionateKwangduk
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Re: Deaths so far.
Posted: 30 Apr 07 5:06 PM
Oh definitly. Boiling away in a pit of superheated thermal water OR a pit of bird shit is a most excellent way to die for some of these bastards. However, it really kinda hurt for me during the death sequence for Jere and Hoyt. Burning alive is no way for a good man to go.
"The war has developed not necessarily to Japan's advantage" ---Hirohito
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