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z665almostevil
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Re: I'm back and alive
Posted: 10 Sep 07 9:03 PM
lol i'm surprised we didn't scare him off like so many others lol
Foxhole
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Re: I'm back and alive
Posted: 10 Sep 07 9:59 PM
Hey, Finucane,

Richard Marcinko is not just one of the baddest moefoze in this quadrant, but he's a True American Hero. If I had read just one of his books before I enlisted in the Army in 1983, I would still be in the Navy today!

He created SEAL Team Six and Red Cell. www.dickmarcinko.com/Bio.aspx

I've read all he's printed so far, but I have this problem: in a book, when the action gets going, I tend to double-time, speedreading. I look like an idiot when I say "I read that, too," and can't recall simple facts. I did the same thing with the Starfist books, too.

In his bio, he talks about UDT and accomplishing the mission in Viet Nam. One thing that sticks out -- and you'll appreciate this -- is that one day he and his team emptied their magazines on a sampan floating by, but uh, when they went to check it out later, the box was almost untouched by bullets. He said from that day on, SEALs began eating and sleeping shooting practice, using more than the entire Marine Corps (in I think a yearlong period, MC/SEAL Team 6).

His further fiction stories, when you read them, you absolutely KNOW this is exactly how it would go down, from an operator's perspective, in real life. I think one of the attributes is something like, "Leaves Clancy waxed & boobytrapped."

Anyway, the reason I ask is that the Recon assassination mission and tunneling through the Skink tunnels reminded me somewhat of ST6 and Red Cell operations.

This may be heresy, but if you guys are looking to resurrect some memories of your time in service which you can use to add some more dimensionality and rekindle ideas, I'd suggest having a go at Capt. Marcinko's material.

Which gives me an idea: in Star Trek, they have a series called "Strange New Worlds," where they rate story submissions by amateurs/newcomers and print them. You might add a topic and invite your former-military readers to tell some short stories. I bet you'd end up with more material and ideas than you can shake a stick at.

Dave
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Re: I'm back and alive
Posted: 11 Sep 07 3:06 AM

Comrade Foxer:  Thanks loads for that excellent dump on Marcinko's books.  I've heard a lot about his writing and have looked up his bio.  As the old saying goes, there's nothing new under the sun, but generally, as much as I'd like to for sheer enjoyment, I do not read SF or action-adventure stuff (or much fiction at all anymore; biographies and histories, yes) precisely because I DO NOT want to be influenced by another author either stylistically or creatively.  If over 50 years of experience in the military and government didn't give me enough material to create characters and plots of my own, I might as well give up.  Where there are similarities between what I write and what some other author's done, I hope they're purely coincidental.  Now history is a different matter.   Both David and I crib from it all the time but there's a reason for that, human nature doesn't change, only technology does and that is a major underlying theme of the Starfist series. We believe if it were possible in time and space for a Roman legionnaire to read our stuff in translation he'd exclaim, "Wow!  That's just how it was for us in Gaul!"

People are always giving us suggestions for story ideas and we appreciate that because it means they're truly interested in our books and they wish to help us out by participating in the creative process.  Some of these suggestions are excellent and it's not unprecedented that some really great stories have evolved from suggestions authors have received from their friends and readers.  But when David and I sit down to plot a book what comes out of that is processed through our own personal experiences and philosophies of art and life.  No doubt we're influenced subtly by what we've read over the years and what other people have done or experienced, but what comes out in the end has to be filtered through our own experience and perspective so it has our personal stamps on it and is uniquely ours.  We hope.

Dan

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Re: I'm back and alive
Posted: 11 Sep 07 4:20 AM
David and I are more alike than I knew. I did the same thing to finish the 2nd draft of the screenplay. Now I am on the 3rd rewrite to tighten it up.

 DavidS wrote
I'm sure you'll agree I have a good reason for not being around lately; I was crunching to finish Force Recon 3: Recoil. It's finished and turned in! During the time I was incommunicato, I was neglecting just about everything that didn't have to do with getting the book done. But now I can come back here and contribute to the discussions. Sounds like more fun than crunching to finish another book.
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